{"id":1481,"date":"2012-05-13T13:16:27","date_gmt":"2012-05-13T11:16:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.dg.art.pl\/?p=1481"},"modified":"2019-10-06T11:36:08","modified_gmt":"2019-10-06T09:36:08","slug":"jak-prawidlowo-ustawic-profile-kolorow-icc-w-adobe-indesign-przygotowujac-pdf-do-druku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/jak-prawidlowo-ustawic-profile-kolorow-icc-w-adobe-indesign-przygotowujac-pdf-do-druku\/","title":{"rendered":"Jak prawid\u0142owo ustawi\u0107 profile kolor\u00f3w ICC w Adobe Indesign przygotowuj\u0105c PDF do druku"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Wi\u0119kszo\u015b\u0107 fotograf\u00f3w, kt\u00f3ra ma potrzeb\u0119 wydrukowania album\u00f3w, pr\u0119dzej czy p\u00f3\u017aniej dochodzi do wniosku, \u017ce zamiast pos\u0142ugiwa\u0107 si\u0119 programami dostarczanymi przez drukarnie (np. Blurb BookSmart czy CEWE Foto\u015bwiat) lepiej album stworzy\u0107 w Adobe Indesign. A do drukarni wys\u0142a\u0107 do druku plik PDF. Dzi\u0119ki temu:<br \/>\na) Zachowujemy projekt albumu w uniwersalnym formacie &#8211; mo\u017cemy go w przysz\u0142o\u015bci drukowa\u0107 w KA\u017bDEJ drukarni.<br \/>\nb) Mamy wi\u0119ksz\u0105 elastyczno\u015b\u0107 w wykonaniu albumu (np. niesko\u0144czona ilo\u015b\u0107 szablon\u00f3w, dob\u00f3r papieru, wielko\u015bci, oprawy).<br \/>\nc) Mo\u017cemy uzyska\u0107 wy\u017csz\u0105 jako\u015b\u0107 &#8211; sami decydujemy o stopniu kompresji, o rozdzielczo\u015bci.<br \/>\nd) Otrzymujemy plik PDF bez znak\u00f3w wodnych &#8211; mo\u017cemy go udost\u0119pni\u0107 dodatkowo w formie elektronicznej, czy przekaza\u0107 zleceniodawcy\/rodzinie na p\u0142ycie.<\/p>\n<p>Wszystko brzmi pi\u0119knie, ale w obs\u0142udze Indesign jest kilka trudnych ustawie\u0144. Jedna z nich dotyczy <b>zapewnienia takich samych kolor\u00f3w zdj\u0119\u0107 na wydruku jaki widzimy na monitorze<\/b>.<\/p>\n<h2>Procedura przygotowywania pliku PDF z profilami kolor\u00f3w ICC<\/h2>\n<p><b>1. Zdj\u0119cia na komputerze zachowujmy w profilu sRGB<\/b><br \/>\nTak zdj\u0119cia w aparatach cyfrowych s\u0105 zachowywane domy\u015blnie. Je\u017celi wywo\u0142ujemy je z plik\u00f3w RAW do JPG, to ka\u017cdym programie do tego s\u0142u\u017c\u0105cym mo\u017cemy ustawi\u0107 profil sRGB.<\/p>\n<p>Dlaczego nie w CMYK? Zdj\u0119cia najcz\u0119\u015bciej ogl\u0105da si\u0119 cyfrowo, a poprawno\u015b\u0107 kolor\u00f3w na monitorach zapewni sRGB. Przygotowywanie drugiej wersji w CMYK wymaga\u0142oby zbyt du\u017co czasu i miejsca na dysku. Oczywi\u015bcie nie dotyczy to fotografii reklamowej, m\u00f3wimy o zastosowaniach profesjonalnych, gdzie drobne r\u00f3\u017cnice w kolorach (niezauwa\u017calne prawie) nie robi\u0105 r\u00f3\u017cnicy.<\/p>\n<p><b>2. Prosimy drukarni\u0119 o profil ICC, z kt\u00f3rego korzystaj\u0105<\/b><br \/>\nZ regu\u0142y mo\u017cna go pobra\u0107 ze strony internetowej drukarni.<\/p>\n<p><b>3. Instalujemy profil na komputerze<\/b><br \/>\nW Windows wystarczy nad plikiem klikn\u0105\u0107 prawym przyciskiem myszy i wybra\u0107 opcj\u0119 &#8222;Instaluj profil&#8221;. Mo\u017cna go tak\u017ce skopiowa\u0107 do folderu:<br \/>\nWINDOWSsystem32spooldriverscolor (Windows XP) lub<br \/>\nWINNTsystem32spooldriverscolor (Windows 2000).<\/p>\n<p>Na Mac OS nale\u017cy wgra\u0107 plik do folderu:<br \/>\n\/Library\/Application Support\/Adobe\/Color\/Profiles\/Recommended.<br \/>\nDruga lokalizacja, to:<br \/>\n\/Users\/username\/Library\/ColorSync\/Profiles.<\/p>\n<p>Po instalacji nale\u017cy zrestartowa\u0107 program Adobe &#8211; dopiero wtedy zobaczymy je w ustawieniach.<\/p>\n<p><b>4. Ustawienia kolor\u00f3w (Adobe Indesign Colour Settings)<\/b><br \/>\nProfil, kt\u00f3rego u\u017cywam (Coated FOGRA39 ISO 12647-2:2004) jest powszechnie stosowany przez europejskie drukarnie. Mi drukarnia przes\u0142a\u0142a profil ISO Coated V2 ECI, kt\u00f3ry jest nowsz\u0105 wersj\u0105 FOGRY39. Ale nie dostrzegam \u017cadnych r\u00f3\u017cnic w wydruku i stosuj\u0119 FOGR\u0118, bo t\u0119 sprawdza\u0142em na pr\u00f3bnych wydrukach.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1521\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1521\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m.jpg\" alt=\"adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m\" title=\"adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m\" width=\"700\" height=\"554\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1521\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m-624x493.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1521\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">adobe-indesign-colour-settings_m<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Nast\u0119pnie:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1531\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1531\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m.jpg\" alt=\"adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m\" title=\"adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m\" width=\"700\" height=\"554\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1531\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m-624x493.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1531\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">adobe-indesign-colour-settings-2_m<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>5. Ustawienia za\u0142\u0105czania do projektu profili (Adobe Indesign Assign Profile)<\/b><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1541\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1541\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m.jpg\" alt=\"adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m\" title=\"adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m\" width=\"700\" height=\"554\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1541\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m-624x493.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1541\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">adobe-indesign-assign-profiles_m<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Nast\u0119pnie:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1551\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1551\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m.jpg\" alt=\"adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m\" title=\"adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m\" width=\"700\" height=\"554\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1551\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m-624x493.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1551\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">adobe-indesign-assign-profiles-2_m<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>6. Ustawienia konwersji kolor\u00f3w dla element\u00f3w projektu, kt\u00f3re posiadaj\u0105 inny (Adobe Indesign Convert to Profile)<\/b><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1561\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1561\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m.jpg\" alt=\"adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m\" title=\"adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m\" width=\"700\" height=\"554\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1561\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m-624x493.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1561\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile_m<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Nast\u0119pnie:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1571\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1571\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m.jpg\" alt=\"adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m\" title=\"adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m\" width=\"700\" height=\"554\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1571\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m-624x493.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1571\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">adobe-indesign-convert-to-profile-2_m<\/p><\/div>\n<p><b>7. Ustawienia kolor\u00f3w podczas eksportowania projektu do PDF (Export Adobe PDF)<\/b><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1581\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/export-adobe-pdf_m.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1581\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/export-adobe-pdf_m.jpg\" alt=\"export-adobe-pdf_m\" title=\"export-adobe-pdf_m\" width=\"700\" height=\"554\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1581\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/export-adobe-pdf_m.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/export-adobe-pdf_m-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/export-adobe-pdf_m-624x493.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1581\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">export-adobe-pdf_m<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Je\u017celi wszystko ustawili\u015bmy prawid\u0142owo (oraz drukarnia ma dobrze skalibrowane maszyny), to powinni\u015bmy otrzyma\u0107 wydruki nie r\u00f3\u017cni\u0105ce si\u0119 zbytnio od tego co widzieli\u015bmy na monitorze.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1601\" style=\"width: 710px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/efekt_druku.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1601\" src=\"http:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/efekt_druku.jpg\" alt=\"efekt_druku\" title=\"efekt_druku\" width=\"700\" height=\"467\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1601\" srcset=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/efekt_druku.jpg 700w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/efekt_druku-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/efekt_druku-624x416.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1601\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">efekt_druku<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Oczywi\u015bcie poniewa\u017c pracujemy na 2 r\u00f3\u017cnych profilach (srgb dla monotora oraz cmyk dla druku), to podczas konwersji dochodzi do lekkich r\u00f3\u017cnic. Niekt\u00f3re kolory CMYK nie maj\u0105 dok\u0142adnego odpowiednika w RGB i na odwr\u00f3t. Niemniej jednak ja tych r\u00f3\u017cnic nie dostrzegam w praktyce.<\/p>\n<p>Co wi\u0119cej &#8211; gotowe programy jak Blurb Booksmart samodzielnie dokonuj\u0105 zmian kolor\u00f3w, nie mamy nad tym kontroli. W praktyce by\u0142em zawsze zawiedziony &#8211; otrzymywa\u0142em zbyt s\u0142abo nasycone kolorami wydruki. Dopiero od czasu, gdy samodzielnie zlecam materia\u0142y jestem zadowolony z efektu &#8211; kolory jak na monitorze.<\/p>\n<p>Polecam przed pierwszym zleceniem druku z PDF poprosi\u0107 drukarni\u0119 o pr\u00f3bk\u0119 jednej strony. Z regu\u0142y robi\u0105 to bezp\u0142atnie i mo\u017cna si\u0119 upewni\u0107, \u017ce kolory s\u0105 prawid\u0142owe.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wi\u0119kszo\u015b\u0107 fotograf\u00f3w, kt\u00f3ra ma potrzeb\u0119 wydrukowania album\u00f3w, pr\u0119dzej czy p\u00f3\u017aniej dochodzi do wniosku, \u017ce zamiast pos\u0142ugiwa\u0107 si\u0119 programami dostarczanymi przez <span class=\"ellipsis\">&hellip;<\/span> <span class=\"more-link-wrap\"><a href=\"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/jak-prawidlowo-ustawic-profile-kolorow-icc-w-adobe-indesign-przygotowujac-pdf-do-druku\/\" class=\"more-link\"><span>Continue Reading &rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[26,42,72,86,107,109,113,114,115,183,215,257],"class_list":["post-1481","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-adobe","tag-blurb","tag-druk-cyfrowy","tag-fogra39","tag-icc","tag-indesign","tag-instalacja-profili","tag-iso","tag-iso-coated-v2-eci","tag-pdf","tag-profile","tag-srgb"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1481","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1481"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1481\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1924,"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1481\/revisions\/1924"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1481"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1481"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/impresjee.pl\/fotografia\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1481"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}